It is, I believe, well known that Foma is a go-to choice for relabeled black-and-white film stocks, and evidence suggests that three of FPPs monster films are actually Fomapan 100, 200 and 400 respectively (the fourth appears to be Orwo UN54). Grain is just acceptable on 35 mm film and no problem if you are working on medium format. Kentmere 400, exposed for the sky almost a perfect gradient from the top of the frame to the middle where it falls off into blown out territory. ? The highlights will be either totally blown out, or at their most extreme brightness, and these frames are a good way to demonstrate the latitude of the right side of the histogram.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'35mmc_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_2',180,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-medrectangle-3-0'); Fomapan 400, exposed for his eyes which were the darkest part of the scene.Fomapan works very nicely when exposing for the shadows, although often shows halation in the brighter lit areas, and light sources. The detail of well exposed for highlights on Fomapan is less refined, and sometimes seem a little harsh even when Im certain they were correctly exposed for. Warum den AGFA-Rhythmus? One word of caution when scanning Kentmere films with flatbed scanners like the Epson V600 or V800 - be very careful with the Unsharp Mask. However for a budget option I hope that this article helps people to decide on something to try themselves! FrancoCJanuary 9, 2015 in Analog-Forum, Hallo, eine neue Bestellung von Filmen steht mal wieder an. 35mmc is a blog authored, edited and published by Hamish Gill featuring daily articles submitted by readers. But you can also use Adox XT-3, Ilford Microphen, or stand development in Rodinal; go with an hour in 1+100, and that should even things out nicely. Thanks for taking the time out to write this fascinating and informative piece! Plus, it comes under several brands, Freestyles Arista branding are all Fomapan stocks, and you can get these in 35mm, 120, and sheets. Film Comparison: Kentmere 400 Vs Fomapan 400. Character is quite a subjective measurement, and different people will assess different qualities when discussing it. for Accessibility for blind people who use screen readers; Press?? Die etwas strkere Krnung nehme ich gerne in Kauf. Corrected a couple of typos in the original piece. This article started as a write up about my time shooting these two emulsions over a long bank holiday weekend, where I had similar lighting conditions and was able to shoot similar exposures across both Fomapan and Kentmere rolls. But, as might have become evident at this point, my film choices are not exactly highly informed, I wasnt about to shoot test targets or anything ridiculous like that I just used both films as I usually would, then developed them according to the manufacturers instructions. Order and structure, vs a more random pattern of sizes. I dont think I have as direct an analogy with Fomapan 400, its more of its own thing. Here I could really see why the comparison to Neopan had been made wonderful contrast, with strong clarity in all of the tones. If excessive grain is not disturbing you for the Fomapan 400 you can go for Rodinal. Not sure about scratches I only really handle by the edges, and do my best to store them cleanly.Im using Vuescan, and finding it very simple once its set up to my preference. These are terrific. These days Im only really developing my own film when I have certain requirements, like push processing, otherwise I wait until I have a large batch to send off to AG in Birmingham. Warum hast den denn den Agfa Kipp verwendet, denn es ist ja vermutlich ein Ilford Film. However I still wanted to see whether Fomapan 400 could work for me in any other use cases, and so shot this roll at EI200, one stop overexposed consistently. Im still not sure about Kentmere 400. Especially if Im working at a reenacting event. Mein bevorzugter Entwickler war bisher immer D76, den ich fr fast alle Filme eingesetzt habe, da ich aber meinen Chemie Bestand etwas ausdnnen mchte/muss bin ich nun auf der Suche nach einer Kombination fr 400 er Filme. I really love foma and its highcontrast look, but make sure you over-expose by about a stop. aber eigentlich wird das nix. Das braucht nicht viel Platz. My negatives always look really dull. Everything is personal preference, just Many feel that it is not a true 400-speed film, and instead, its closer to a 200-250 speed film. See if you can guess which is which in the comments! Theres always something interesting here. Thank you! Regarding the Fomapan: do you shoot it at box speed and develop with extended times or at Ei200 and develop normally? ago. The Fomapan suffers at 400, with a blockier rendering, and a foggy grey tone in the blacks which somewhat spoils the aesthetic, unless thats something youre especially looking But dont limit yourself to those; it also sings in Kodak D-23. I dont think this had anything to do with overexposure since my F100 is usually pretty consistent in matrix metering mode. Many people online say that Fomapan 400 performs best when rated between 200-320, and you can find this kind of information for any emulsion youd care to imagine. by visiting our affiliates! Kentmere is a low contrast film which leaves you a lot of room to work in the shadows, and turns out great when developed in DD-X. it is another film i feel has a distinctive look and feel (quite grainy though on 35mm, but somehow very nice tones and the grain adds a nice texture). Pop in a blues CD and Im in the zone. Tri-X at 320 is a wonderful look but one roll at 35mm is twice the price of Fomapan, sometimes even more than half! Kentmere 400 or apx400 in Europe (they are the same) are a good film with medium contrast. Fomapan 200, Im still trying to figure something out. All photos were given the same amount of sharpening and then inverted after cleaning up any lingering dust with the spot healing tool. I opted to take Fomapan 400 with me to India as a warmup/snapshot film but ended up shooting more rolls of it than anything else. Also, Fomapan 400 is a film that shines in certain situations and conditions and if youre looking for a specific look and feel to your black & white images. It works well in Rollei Low-Speed, Adox FX-39 II, Kodak D-96, Adox Atomal 49, etc. . The woman was climbing out for some fresh air, that shot was taken during the heatwave in August! It has more highlight bleed and halation than Kentmere, but this is rarely overwhelming in the way it may be on something like Cinestill 800t. As registered member you'd see an image here. If Fomas QC were that good, then Id rather have the Foma. If you prefer yourself, it is possibble to give formula? Paste as plain text instead, Kentmere seems to be accurately rated at 400, and Ive never been inclined to shoot it over/under, or even to push or pull it. Fomapan 200 suited me better. What a difference! If youre a fan of a particular era of films and love that high-speed crunch and grain that youd find in a 1970s roll of Kodak Tri-X and are okay with a bit of speed loss or an increase of grain plus a bit of soft mush and a mid-to-low contrast than Fomapan 400 might be a film to try. Some people love it, some hate it. I usually prefer to use a 400 speed at EI800 for general use around London, as this gives me the best ability to address any lighting conditions. "Never criticize someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes. Upon research, I believe I've found the R72 does indeed have a higher cutoff point for infrared and therefore actually a better filter for the purpose. I disagree that Fomapan 400 is garbage, but it is very different to HP5+. in Atomal49 1+2 kam er noch differentierter und mit schnen Grauwerten. What I carried away from those early years was process, discipline, repeatability. Pasted as rich text. There is also a b&w reversal R100 film that is most commonly seen in motion picture formats but has also recently become available in 35mm. I bought Arista edu 400 for it's infrared capability. A lovely aesthetic, but definitely one to be controlled rather than allowed to get out of hand. mit Bewegung ging es dann immer zu schnell und das Korn war zurck. (Free 3-day trial)Subscribe here. Bisher ging ich eher von ASA 320 aus. It renders images with a decent level of Fomapan 400 doesnt work for me at box speed, or when pushed two stops, but its absolutely earned its place in my inventory as a 200 speed option for summer use. All I know is I was researching cheap 100 rolls and came upon this link. Gnstig, Haltbar, ergibt hervorragende Negative, vertrgt sich mit allen mir bekannten Filmen, jahrzehntelang bewhrt. Hopefully this will be apparent when you look at the images below, which you can click on to get a closer look. ob es der neue oder der alte APX400 war? Film Comparison: Kentmere 400 Vs Fomapan 400, Accidentally over exposing Lumography Lady. Ive found that when scanning, especially if youre using something like an Epson V600, it can be very difficult to recover highlights from Tri-X without throwing off the whole image. Glad you enjoyed this piece. Contribute to 35mmc for an Ad-Free Experience-, Fuji C200 Review A short note on my Enduring Love for this film By Phil Stefans, Kodak Portra 400 My First Roll by Simon King, Fuji Pro 400H & Kodak Portra 400 Quest For Colour By Aukje, NOSSAFLEX - An organising tool for film photography - Launches on Kickstarter, The Beauty of Basic: Life with One Lens - By Will Mordell, Camera, Lens, Film and Peripheral Kit Reviews. These are nice, there is something about the crappy anti halation layer film when you pull it and blow the highlights a bit, it turns the glowiness up to 11.How do you prevent scratches, Simon? Fomapan 400, exposed for the sky behind the drivers cab. Contribute to 35mmc for an Ad-Free Experience-, 5 Frames with the Olympus XA & Ektar 100 (at EI400) by Simon King, Frames with the Mighty Hasselblad XPAN By Yul Vazquez, 5 Frames on Frozen Lake Winnipeg with Rollei 25 RPX By Christopf Rampitsch, 5 Frames With Fomapan 400 "Action" at EI1600, Developed as 3200 - by Simon King - 35mmc, First Impressions: A Fomapan 400 Review - The Analogue Experience, Fomapan 400 & Kentmere 400 Review - Battle of the Budgets - by Simon King - 35mmc, Video: Chatting to Ashley Carr in Stourport (part 2), 5 frames of the Extinction Rebellion with a Leica R5 - by Michael Scott, Camera, Lens, Film and Peripheral Kit Reviews, Contribute to 35mmc for an Ad-Free Experience. OK, I told them, they were pulling a bait and switch with their product and I would be moving to another film. I just dont shoot enough film to make the price per roll very relevant, but I think youd be hard pressed to find a B&W film in this price range that performs this well. Recently I switched over to DD-X from ID-11. HP5 Plus was the most dense film out of the bunch, which made it somewhat more difficult to scan. Fomapan is a film I tried when I first started out, but I was undertaking the learning curve of a film camera as well as film itself, and this meant that my results were not ideal. Ich wrde HP5 in D76 nehmen und den Silvermax- Entwickler mir schenken. And while it does perform better and is a little more accessible to more people, I still think that the film does an amazing job as a 400-speed film. Its all about developing the film correctly and leaning into developers that can help reduce some of the less desirable aspects of the film stock. I personally think the grain and contrast is much better. 21 Grad, 19 Minuten AGFA in R1+50 haben bei mir 640 ASA gebracht. Having now revisited it with my more advanced skillset Im happy with the look it can offer, and have a better []. These films are reasonably similarly priced, at around 25 for a pack of 5x 36-shot rolls at time of writing. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. And I thought taping over the red dot was silly. In my experience it really shines one stop from box, at EI200. 1. Now that Im retired, I like instant gratification slip into the darkroom whenever I need to process filmpour, dilute, temp check, time/temp compensate and process. The only concession I made to scientific method was shooting them both on the same day, so there were similar lighting conditions. Film Photography Podcast and News Shoot Some Film, Dang it! Der 100/21 Silvermax in Silvermax Entwickler entspricht genau dem was ich suchte. M3+50er Elmar auf Silvermax. Lens: Mamiya-Sekor 65mm F3.5. I chose the images below specifically because they have some big chunks of sky. als der Silvermax darin ebenso mit guten Ergebnissen entwickeln lassen. Film strips (exposure latitude, base clarity) Rollei Enter ? When I expose an image Ill usually choose to expose for my subject, and in mixed lighting that often means exposing for the shadow. document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. If everything goes well I will save up some pennies for an Olympus Pen FT. I decided to give Fomapan 400 a try after discovering that it is exactly the same price as Kentmere 400. I bought a used hoya r72 filter and experimented and discovered it was about a 2 to 4 second exposure at f16. DD-X is already to go. November 20, 2019. All our Contributors have an ad-free experience for life.Sign uphere. I developed both films with rodinol, so a good deal of grain was to be expected. Ansel Adams did good tree work. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Fomapan on the other hand seems underexposed when shot at box speed. Thanks again for another informative article. Its predictable, and has a very classic feeling to it. Ive experimented with Foma quite a bit to get results that I feel represent the best possible look from this film. The look of Kentemere reminds me of those surveillance films, or JHC400, so maybe that would be the most direct comparison. So by exposing for the shadows, youre basically over exposing it 2-3 stops and thus placing the shadows off the toe and onto the linear part of the film curve? Lets talk grain. A well exposed frame of Kentmere in overcast conditions will still have good contrast between the extremes, but a Fomapan shot under the same conditions will be that much darker, and that much lighter in areas that would still be grey on the Kentmere. That being said, settling on using it as a 200 means that Ill shoot it less frequently, reserving it for spring/summer use. Thanks Peter!I deliberately chose frames with similar tones so it would be a bit trickier.The one of the left is the Fomapan. You can post now and register later. 5x7 Fomapan 200 at e.i. Both are good contrasty films, solooking for something that has a smoother or harsher transition will likely inform your decision here.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'35mmc_com-banner-1','ezslot_14',185,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-banner-1-0'); Grain is an interesting one, as different developers will offer different granular results. The images made with that extra stop of light were enough to allow me to settle for [], [] The images above all felt under exposed. The question isn't "is HP5 $20 better than Foma", but rather "do I value my work to the tune of $20". ALL my posts are to be read with an aMaZeBaLLs BARRY WHITE voice. Honestly, if money is that big an object or is the sole criteria, then just steal TMY2 or TriX. I think both films perform fantastically at rendering sharpness into their frames. If you need a budget film, Kentmere is your best choice. I thought it would be interesting to discuss the two, and make a few comparisons where appropriate in order to help guide people towards making a choice between perhaps the most popular budget black and white films on the market.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[728,90],'35mmc_com-box-3','ezslot_1',179,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-box-3-0'); Ill be talking about the 400 variations of both as 400 speed films offer me the most diverse uses for general purpose, all-light shooting. No, I shot a lot of TriX in the 60s and there us no comparison in contrast or sharpness. (Never shot Ilford) I am definitely going to try Kentmere. den habe ich in D76 zu recht brauchbaren In their world, it was imperative to get the shot (a few were still using 45 press cameras) so each step of the process carried equal weight: exposure, developing, printing. Kentmere is the easier and faster film, i have been able to get as good results as HP5+, and i somehow have this feel that the grain is smaller or less visible, may be completely objectively wrong. Vor Korn habe ich keine Angst, solange kein 80 Schleifpapier Look entsteht. However I think because of the grain structure I often perceive the Fomapan to have a little bit of an edge in sharpness. I found that Kodak TMax Developer, Acufine and Ilfotec HC all do wonderful jobs developing Fomapan 400. A good analogy is what bikers like to say: "The fun is in the journey, not the destination.". Zu teuer ist er auch nicht: im 10er-Pack 4,39 bei Fotoimpex. That could be quite a difference. Sometimes this grittiness fits your subject - Ill often choose Tri-X when shooting at former military bases because of the grain alone. Id probably let it sit in the developer a little longer next time.Regardless of the negative density, the results speak for themself - just look at the detail in the chrome of the motorcycle pictured below. Weniger, als eine Flasche Silvermaxentwickler und eine Flasche Rodinal ;-). Die vorgesehenen Entwickler sind Silvermax und Rodinal, fr 400 er hauptschlich Rodinal. You are using an out of date browser. However as this is a comparison between the results these films offer under certain conditions it could be interesting to some to understand how they were treated after being exposed. Tags: Black and White NegativeFomaMedium FormatReview. Ich bin immer etwas unsicher welche Entwicklungszeiten ich nehmen soll, da ja nie klar ist um welche Version des Filmes es sich handelt. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. I no longer have to cross my fingers hoping that the negatives will come out. Content contributor - become a part of the worlds biggest film and alternative photography community blog. I tried (semi-succesfully) push foma200 1 stop in rodinal and its definitely also worth checking out, the foma200 film gives (imo) better results than the 400. Happy shooting! News, Tips & Reviews. Learn how your comment data is processed. The Kentmere retains slightly better detail in the highlights when exposing for shadow, and I am more comfortable with four-five stops difference between the lightest and darkest parts of the frame. Rodinal hat die Eigenschaft ber 20C krnig zu werden. Im not an authority on development my interest lies in the shooting experience, and for me this ends when the shutter is pressed. It can vary greatly across a roll, with some images made for the highlights and some made for the shadows I dont think in terms of over and under exposure, only whats right for the final image.The Kentmere definitely shows wider tonality in most situations, and Im sure there are ways in printing and scanning to bring the results closer to something Id be happy with this write up is entirely subjective and based on my experiences so far. It provides a grittier look than other Kodak films (specifically T-Max 400). Fomapan 400 can also be used for street work in dull conditions or in areas where you want to show off a bit more crunch to go with urban decay. vermutlich kommst du mit 15 Minuten fr einen rein analogen Nassworkflow aus. Its cheapReally cheap!! I shot both films at box speed, and didnt experience any issues. I may try Fomapan as you did at EI=200. For more articles on 35mmc about the subject matter discussed here, please click one of the following tag links: Contribute to 35mmc for an Ad-Free Experience. Out of all the films I tested, I felt Tri-X had the best balance of contrast overall. Alternativ knnte man auch einen 400er in dem Silvermax- Entwickler mal eintesten. If I wanted that I'd use a softar filter. Was ich nun suche ist ein Film der bei 400/24 oder etwas weniger gut mit Rodinal harmorniert. Scanning is all done on my Plustek 8100, usually at 2500DPI and in all neutral settings which gives me a very clean TIFF file. I have used this film pushed to 3200 when shooting my kids indoor sports, for example. And believe me, they are crummy. Dies betrifft sowohl die Chemieflaschen als auch Papiere. When shot with different exposures in mind, in different kinds of conditions, these films can produce quite a few looks. I think the character of these films are the elements that remain consistent through most use cases. The datasheets say that at 2, you should go with a 6 exposure. While the pricing advantage of Fomapan has eroded recently due to inflation and other factors, its still usually my go-to when film-testing recently repaired cameras, and even the modest price savings from using it might help encourage experimentation and creative exploration that higher-priced films inherently rather discourage. Thanks for taking the time to read my thoughts on Fomapan 400 @ 200. If youve enjoyed my photographs here I have a larger selection available onmy Instagram, from all different kinds of films and projects. Kentmere is not an easy film to shoot. Ive even shot the movie at a World War 1 event at Torontos historic Fort York, and it looked amazing, especially when I framed the images right to avoid the modern condos surrounding the fort today. Yep, there are many reviews of Foma 400 on the net, and they often say that, shot at box speed and developed as recommended, its grainy, contrasty and lacks shadow detail, which is what pushed film looks like.I shoot a lot of it, all at 200. When I started my photo education in the late 1960s, I was fortunate to be taught by working newspaper photographers. Ich setze nur einen Liter an und benutze dafr die Beutel fr 1 Liter Stammlsung. Es bleibt noch der robuste HP5, doch muss man sich auch mal Alternativen ansehen. Ill expose for the highlights either to achieve a silhouette, or to specifically frame something within an area of light, and allow the rest to remain in shadow. I'm open to any dispute. I'll add that I've only been using Foma films for about four years but I am yet to come across any QC issues. Again, much of that comes down to personal taste, and what you want from your photographs. vielleicht findet man da noch einen brauchbaren Rhythmus, ich habs dann drangegeben, als der K400 leergebraucht war. Review | Kentmere 400 vs. Tri-X vs. HP5 Plus. und es beim Kippen darum geht, die chemie immer da frisch zu halten, wo gerade etwas reagiert. You know what they basically said? You cant throw any developer at Fomapan 400 and expect pleasing results. Yes, in that case you would be cutting into the film speed a bit, but you could still get more of the look you like while shooting the film you prefer. Fr ihn rume ich das Labor gerne, Welcome, dear visitor! Its cheaper than tri-x and hp5+. schrfe war nie ein Problem. All negatives were scanned on a Nikon D810 with the 60mm f/2.8 AF-S macro lens and a Nikon ES-2 adapter, which is a massive leap forward in quality from the V600 I used when I first started shooting film. Except that if things go wrong then the monetary loss is greater with the more expensive film.